Marion Paige (Admin)
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Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 2:02 pm: | |
this is a post we made to another one of our boards some time ago prompted in part by the fact that contracts to perform in the production of Adult Movies have never been recognized by The Courts AND by the fact that most people don't realize that SEX is part of the marriage contract (and that the Government is a party to that sexual contract).
Prosecutors in Luzerne County Pennsylvania some how managed to argue in Court that Harlow Cuadra murdered gay adult video producer Bryan Kocis to FREE one of Kocis' performers from a contract to perform in adult videos. As said, contracts to perform in Adult Videos have never been legally recognized by the Court.
Original post date of March 1, 2006
Ultimately, the Gay Marriage Campaign will destroy marriage, at least marriage as it currently exists. Instead of seeking to have gay marriages approved, Gay Rights Groups would probably do much better, from a legal perspective, to litigate to have all marriages declared null and void, on the grounds that all marriages are contracts for sex. Once sex is removed from marriage, the state won't care if the parties marrying are of the same sex or of the opposite, or even if the parties are related. Can you imagine "religious/family values groups" arguing in court that they need marriage to include the "contracting for sexual services" provision? But, again, I have this habit of assuming that other people are as smart as I am.
There are two lawsuits in the news that are bound to test this tiny little piece of thread that separates marriage from prostitution i.e.:
( 1 ) Anna Nicole Smith's appeal to the Supreme Court for her 80 year old husband's estate;
( 2 ) a lawsuit in federal court against gay adult performer Sean Lockhart by Cobra Video, Cobra claims Lockhart lied about being underage in order to break his contract with Cobra Video to perform in Cobra's Adult Videos. "Cobra Video Ratchets Up Offensive Against Underage Model" via Bananaguide.com (adult sites)
Disclosure: Personally, I think the gay marriage campaign is all about gay publications selling advertising and gay .orgs hustling donations. The Gay Marriage Movement has very little if anything to do with gay men's lives (and lesbians are already using alternate means of contracting because a lot of them have kids to consider). Look, I invented the Relationship, LLC. If there were tons of gay people who wanted to marry, I think I would probably have been the first person to know about it. The fact that Gay Marriage Activist have joined George Bush et. al in attacking Hillary Clinton makes you wonder if The Republicans aren't secretly funding The Gay Marriage Movement.
The idea that you can litigate to get gay marriages approved shows a basic ignorance of law. You can't litigate to make gay marriages legal because you can't legally prove that marriages are valid. The state should not even be in the business of issuing licenses for sexual services (i.e. marriage licenses). The fact that the State is in the business of issuing licenses for sexual services has resulted in the State also being in the business of regulating the sexual activities of people who contract to marry. There are laws in many states outlawing certain sexual practices between married couples. You have to wonder if proponents of Gay Marriage realize that they are seeking/fighting for the right to have the State regulate their sexual activities.
FOR EXAMPLE: Under partnership and contract law, any number of people may enter into contracts and partnerships with each other. California's Domestic Partnership Law is based on business contract law and is, on our understanding, admistered by California's Secretary of State, the same entity that administers business partnerships, corporations and LLCs. Now, since California's Domestic Partnership Law incorporates "contracting for sex" (CA's law defines the parties contracting as person who are intimate with each other), CA's Domestic Partners Law regulates the sexual activities of people contracting under CA's Domestic Partnership law by limiting the number of people who can contract under the law to TWO PEOPLE
You can't litigate for gay marriages because, technically, under the letter of modern law, all marriages are contracts for sex and all marriages are therefore illegal.
I am holding my breath for the day an extremely wealthy man argues in court that his marriage and all marriages in his state are void because they are all contracts for sex; in order the man to avoid paying alimony to his wife. Can you imagine what will happen if/when a state rules all marriages in that state invalid? I wonder how many men would re-contract with their wives under a new valid contract structure that doesn't include sex (like a Relationship LLC) if their marriages were ruled invalid? I think there are just too many man who would like their marriages voided (without them having to pay any alimony) for this event not to happen sooner or later.
I have actually considered filing a lawsuit to have all marriages in New York State voided on the grounds that they are contracts for sex in order to promote my Relationship LLC concept.
Marriage is accepted as valid because of tradition. It is legally impossible to prove that marriages are valid, because most state laws do not allow people to contract for sex. Essentially, most state laws say all contracts for sex are illegal except for this special contract called marriage because, traditionally, marriages have been accepted in society. The Judges in Vermont who legalized Civil Unions operated on the ASSUMED that marriage was a legal concept based on the given that marriage is traditionally viewed as legal and a special exception to the prohibition against contracts for sex.
So, Anna Nicole Smith's case before the Supreme Court will test just how far this marriage thing can be bent before it just becomes out and out prostitution. Personally, I don't get how a state court can deny a wife her husband's estate. And, the concept of pre-marriage agreements have already pretty much dissoved the line between marriage and prostitution.
In the case of Cobra Video vs Sean Lockhart, Cobra Video is going before a federal judge trying to enforce a contract that called for an (allegedly) 18 year old kid to perform sex with other 18 year old kids for money. Cobra has a lot of balls. While technically, Cobra may have a valid claim under the law to argue that it had a contract with an adult to perform services, I mean, come on, we're talking about a contract for sex here. I don't really know how well Adult Video companies have done in courts in the past trying to enforce their contracts with performers. But, I have a feeling Adult Production Companies haven't done very well trying to enforce their contracts for sexual services. Cobra could be in for a very big surprise.
All Roads Lead To The Relationship LLC
Of course, if all contracts for sex are eventually found by the courts to be null and void, California's Domestic Partners Registration Program and Vermont's Civil Union Registration would also be null and void as contracts for sex, just like marriage.
Bottom line is that eventually, one way or another, the way to marry will eventually be with a Relationship LLC |
